OK Sa Ki Fori showed up on the Lake Ias docks, to raid. As they gathered, one of the panthers, Morrighan Serendipity Ims the leader fo the Di Jan Panthers and informs her they are going to raid the Luna Caleeng Panther tribe.
Now why would she do that? Well we have a rule on sim that if you raid one of the two panther tribes, the other tribe can’t assist. I as sim feral can assist either tribe, but i only one person. Luna not allowed to assist di Jan and Di Jan not allowed to assist luna. Only way both tribes get involved is if you shoot at tribe members from the tribe you’re not raiding, then raiders fair game for both.
So Morrighan Serendipity Im’ed Bac the En of the Di Jan, informing her they raiding Luna, so that the Di Jan would not interfere with the raid on the Luna Camp. All fine so far.
Bac posts a notice to her people not to interfere with the raid on Luna camp.
A few minutes later, The Sa Ki Fori run on sim, run straight over the bridge and WAIT!! not one of them heads towards the swamp or Luna camp, they don’t even shoot at the camp. They run straight for the Di jan camp and start attacking the Di Jan.
Now of course the Di Jan caught completely off guard, having been told ooc not to interfere raid on Luna. I watched one Di Jan get hit to less than 50% before she even got a bow out.
The point is, Sa Ki Fori and Morrighan Serendipity gained a complete surprise attack and great advantage in raid, by using ooc im’s and asking Di Jan not to interfere in the raid they supposedly doing against Luna.
Now you could be completely negative and say they did it on purpose to gain advantage or that once on sim they decided to change who they raiding. Doesn’t matter does it? They still gained by using ooc IM’s to get advantage.
Fact is they claimed after role play stopped, they decided to raid whole sim. Well problem with that statement is:
1 – No one raided Luna, or attacked Luna.
2- The IM still make raid invalid as Di Jan tried to respect the raiders right to raid luna and since told in advance, told their members not to interfere.
3 – If they changed their mind once on sim, only correct thing to do was IM Bac back and tell her they changed their mind. They didn’t.
The most troubling part of all this was my IM discussion with Erica Thorne after the event. Erica claims to be a MOD in several high traffic sims. She also Claims to be expert on Gor and Role Play, yet she doesn’t see anything wrong with what was done in IM’s before the raid, does not think they did anything wrong and calls us a Disney Sim.
Well Erica got news for you, good mods don’t base their decisions on their past personal experiences, their prejudices, their ooc problems with people. They base them on the facts in front of them for the current role play.
Tell me you think i am wrong, but i think using OOC IMs to get a whole group to stand down and have them expecting you to raid someone else, especially on a sim where they are not allowed to aid the other group. IM’ing to request they not interfere, then using that to surprise that same group, intentionally or unintentionally, make the whole thing invalid.
Oh and Erica, before you accuse someone of cheating, you might want to actually learn about Terriform draw problems, at distances, meaning someone you see in the open, may not be in the open especially if you long distance away, as terriform does nt show properly. They might actually be behind ground. Also, shooting at the head as she claims to be the proof a person was cheating, means nothing, except that you had less chance of hitting them. Finally of course when you turn off aphas you very likely to not hit people on our sim, since that may remove prims with alphas from view but does not make the prim allow arrows through. Plus we have many invisible primes to block people walking through phantom prims that are supposed to be solid like trees etc.
Finally i would ask her to actually read the books, not just try to drag out selected quotes, since she clearly does not understand them at all by her comments on the books.
And Erica, for me personally, your resume in gor means nothing, i judge people on their actions. Or are you claiming that your time in sl gor makes you some sort of gorean god, because i can giver you a long list of terrible role players, cheats, people who refuse to role play caps, etc, all with long records in gor. Sure you want to be lumped in with them?
So in conclusion, you tell me, who is Disney, someone who OOC IM’s a tribe, to supposedly make sure they not going to interfere with a raid on another group on sim, then ICly uses that to gain a huge advantage when they attack the group they just told they were not attacking?
Or the sim mods that ruled it invalid for mixing OOC with ic.